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John And Jessie: Montrose Harbour Approach, Montrose, North Sea

Lugger (19th Century)

Site Name John And Jessie: Montrose Harbour Approach, Montrose, North Sea

Classification Lugger (19th Century)

Alternative Name(s) John & Jessie Montrose; John & Jessie; 'half Mile S. Of The Rocks Off Montrose Harbour'; '0.5 Mile South Of Montrose Harbour'; Harbour Rocks

Canmore ID 198242

Site Number NO75NW 8042

NGR NO 725 568

NGR Description NO c. 725 568

Datum Datum not recorded

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Administrative Areas

  • Council Angus
  • Parish Maritime - Angus
  • Former Region Tayside
  • Former District Maritime
  • Former County Not Applicable

Archaeology Notes

NO75NW 8042 c. 725 568

N56 42.1 W2 27.0

NLO: Montrose [name: NO 720 572]

Scurdie Ness [name: NO 735 567].

Location formerly entered as NO c. 73 56 [N56 42 W2 26].

19 October 1872, JOHN AND JESSIE, of Montrose, 6 yrs old, lugger, 7 tons, 6 crew, Master and Owner J. Findlay, departed Montrose for fishing, in ballast, foundered, total loss, 5 lives lost, wind S6, half mile S. of the rocks off Montrose Harbour.

Source: PP Abstracts Returns of Wrecks and Casualties on Coasts of the UK [Record received incomplete].

NMRS, MS/829/68 (no. 2431).

(Name cited as John & Jessie: classified as lugger, in ballast, and date of loss cited as 19 October 1872). John & Jessie: [this vessel] foundered 0.5 miles S of Montrose harbour. Capt. Findlay.

Registration: Montrose. Built 1866. 7nrt.

(Location of loss cited as N56 41.50 W2 25.00).

I G Whittaker 1998.

(Location re-entered as NO c. 725 568 [N56 42.1 W2 27.0]). The location assigned to this record is tentative, assuming that the loss of the vessel occurred E (rather than S) of Montrose Harbour.

Montrose Harbour or the Port of Montrose (NO75NW 44.00) occupies an ill-defined area around NO 7123 5121. It does not have a clearly-defined entrance, but is approached (from the E) between the extensive estuarine sandbanks of the River South Esk, which extend as far E as Scurdie Ness [name: NO 735 567]. The vessel apparently stranded within the rocky area opposite (to the S of) these sandbanks, where the 1999 edition of the OS 1:50,000 map indicates a continuous rocky shore along the S side of the Esk between Ferryden [name: NO 718 568] and Scurdie Ness.

An alternative location of loss may be suggested at NO c. 731 560, this being 0.5 mile SSW of Scurdie Ness, which rocky promontory defines the S side of the entrance into Montrose Harbour approach.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 18 November 2011.

Activities

Loss (19 October 1872)

19 October 1872, JOHN AND JESSIE, of Montrose, 6 yrs old, lugger, 7 tons, 6 crew, Master and Owner J. Findlay, departed Montrose for fishing, in ballast, foundered, total loss, 5 lives lost, wind S6, half mile S. of the rocks off Montrose Harbour.

Source: PP Abstracts Returns of Wrecks and Casualties on Coasts of the UK [Record received incomplete].

NMRS, MS/829/68 (no. 2431).

(Name cited as John & Jessie: classified as lugger, in ballast, and date of loss cited as 19 October 1872). John & Jessie: [this vessel] foundered 0.5 miles S of Montrose harbour. Capt. Findlay.

Registration: Montrose. Built 1866. 7nrt.

(Location of loss cited as N56 41.50 W2 25.00).

I G Whittaker 1998.

Named Location (Nlo) (5 October 2001)

NLO: Montrose [name: NO 720 572]

Scurdie Ness [name: NO 735 567].

Location formerly entered as NO c. 73 56 [N56 42 W2 26].

Note (18 November 2011)

(Location re-entered as NO c. 725 568 [N56 42.1 W2 27.0]). The location assigned to this record is tentative, assuming that the loss of the vessel occurred E (rather than S) of Montrose Harbour.

Montrose Harbour or the Port of Montrose (NO75NW 44.00) occupies an ill-defined area around NO 7123 5121. It does not have a clearly-defined entrance, but is approached (from the E) between the extensive estuarine sandbanks of the River South Esk, which extend as far E as Scurdie Ness [name: NO 735 567]. The vessel apparently stranded within the rocky area opposite (to the S of) these sandbanks, where the 1999 edition of the OS 1:50,000 map indicates a continuous rocky shore along the S side of the Esk between Ferryden [name: NO 718 568] and Scurdie Ness.

An alternative location of loss may be suggested at NO c. 731 560, this being 0.5 mile SSW of Scurdie Ness, which rocky promontory defines the S side of the entrance into Montrose Harbour approach.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 18 November 2011.

Reference (2011)

Whittaker ID : 5387

Name : JOHN & JESSIE

Latitude : 564130

Longitude : 22500

Date Built : 1866

Registration : MONTROSE

Type : LUGGER

Tonnage : 7

Tonnage Code : N

Loss Day : 19

Loss Month : 10

Loss Year : 1872

Comment : Foundered 0.5 mile S of Montrose Hbr. Capt. Findlay

Cargo : BALLAST

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