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Plimsoll: Firth Of Forth

Brigantine (19th Century)

Site Name Plimsoll: Firth Of Forth

Classification Brigantine (19th Century)

Alternative Name(s) 'Abreast [of] Hopeton [hopetoun] House'; Abercorn; South Queensferry; Middle Forth Estuary; Plimsoll

Canmore ID 199879

Site Number NT07NE 8002

NGR NT 08 79

NGR Description NT c. 08 79

Datum Datum not recorded

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Administrative Areas

  • Council West Lothian
  • Parish Maritime - West Lothian
  • Former Region Lothian
  • Former District Maritime
  • Former County Not Applicable

Archaeology Notes

NT07NE 8002 c. 08 79

N56 00 W3 29

Possibly on map sheet NT17NW.

Possibly within Maritime - Fife or Maritime - City of Edinburgh.

Formerly entered as NT17NW 8015 at cited location NT c. 12 78 [N55 59.3 W3 24].

19 October 1898. PLIMSOLL, 27 years, of Norway, wood brigantine, 190 ton, 6 men. Master H. Grall, Owner J.F. Juell and Co., Risoer, Norway, Hull to Odense, Denmark. Coal. Wind WSW10. Abreast of Hopetoun House, Linlithgowshire. Casualties involving total loss of vessel during year end 30 June 1899.

Source: PP Abstracts of Shipping Casualties on Coasts, or in Rivers and Harbours, of UK July 1898-99 (1900 [Cd. 318] LXXVII.531).

NMRS, MS/829/67 (no. 716).

(Classified as wooden brigantine, with cargo of coal: date of loss cited as 19 October 1898). Plimsoll: this vessel stranded abreast [of] Hopeton [Hopetoun] House. Capt. Gnall.

Registration: Risor. Built 1871. 205 grt. Length: 32m. Beam: 8m.

(Location of loss cited as N55 59.75 W3 27.0).

I G Whittaker 1998.

The location and administrative area assigned to this record is essentially tentative. The loss of this vessel may have occurred within the area of map sheet and/or the quasi-administrative areas designated as Maritime - Fife or Maritime - City of Edinburgh.

Hopetoun House (NT07NE 13.00) is at NT 0885 7901.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 11 September 2003.

Activities

Loss (19 October 1898)

19 October 1898. PLIMSOLL, 27 years, of Norway, wood brigantine, 190 ton, 6 men. Master H. Grall, Owner J.F. Juell and Co., Risoer, Norway, Hull to Odense, Denmark. Coal. Wind WSW10. Abreast of Hopetoun House, Linlithgowshire. Casualties involving total loss of vessel during year end 30 June 1899.

Source: PP Abstracts of Shipping Casualties on Coasts, or in Rivers and Harbours, of UK July 1898-99 (1900 [Cd. 318] LXXVII.531).

NMRS, MS/829/67 (no. 716).

(Classified as wooden brigantine, with cargo of coal: date of loss cited as 19 October 1898). Plimsoll: this vessel stranded abreast [of] Hopeton [Hopetoun] House. Capt. Gnall.

Registration: Risor. Built 1871. 205 grt. Length: 32m. Beam: 8m.

(Location of loss cited as N55 59.75 W3 27.0).

I G Whittaker 1998.

Note (11 September 2003)

The location assigned to this record is essentially tentative. The loss of this vessel may have occurred within the area of map sheet NT17NW and/or the quasi-administrative areas designated as Maritime - Fife or Maritime - City of Edinburgh.

Hopetoun House (NT07NE 13.00) is at NT 0885 7901.

Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 11 September 2003.

Reference (2011)

Whittaker ID : 3292

Name : PLIMSOLL

Latitude : 555945

Longitude : 32700

Date Built : 1871

Registration : RISOR

Type : BRIGANTINE (WOOD)

Tonnage : 205

Tonnage Code : G

Length : 32

Beam : 8

Draught : 3m

Loss Day : 19

Loss Month : 10

Loss Year : 1898

Comment : Stranded abreast Hopeton House. Capt. Gnall

Cargo : COAL

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