Alternative Names 'Near Blackness'; Middle Forth Estuary
Site type CRAFT (15TH CENTURY), GALLIOT (15TH CENTURY)
Canmore ID 290375
Site Number NT08SE 8013
NGR NT 05 80
Latitude N 56 0
Longitude W 3 31
Council WEST LOTHIAN
Parish MARITIME - WEST LOTHIAN
Former Region LOTHIAN
Former District MARITIME
Former County MARITIME

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Archaeological Notes

NT08SE 8013 c. 05 80
N56 0 W3 31

NLO: Blackness [name: NT 051 799].

Possibly on map sheets NT07NE or NT08SW.

(No classification or cargo specified: date of loss cited as 141). Unknown: harbours of the Forth attacked by a fleet of ten English ships. Burnt ships.
(Location of loss cited as N56 0.0 W3 0.0).
I G Whittaker 1998.

A Scots galliot and other craft, 1409/10, Blackness, Scotland
Sir Robert Umfravill, Vice-Admiral of England, in 1409/10 took 10 ships and harassed the Scots coast, burning `a Scots galliot and other craft off Blackness¿.
Source: W. Laird Clowes et al., A History of the Royal Navy, Vol. 1, London 1898, p369, reference to Hardyng, pp365-6, (Ellis) [transcriber¿s note: ¿Rolls Series¿?] [or could this be the Rotuli Scotiae?]
(Information from Gillian Hutchinson (NMM, Greenwich) per Serena Cant (NMRC), 11 June 2007).

The location and quasi-administrative area assigned to this record, and its equation with the losses cited by Whittaker are all essentially tentative.
Information from RCAHMS (RJCM), 31 August 2007.

Whittaker, I G (1998) Off Scotland: a comprehensive record of maritime and aviation losses in Scottish waters, Edinburgh
Page(s): 228 Held at RCAHMS E.5.14.WHI